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Explorer Post 369

Explorer Post 369

Table of Contents


Calendar of Events:

December 19 Christmas Party

December 16, 17 Food Drive

December 25 No Meeting

January 1 No Meeting

January 23 Advancement Tests

January 30 Post Elections

February 3 Court-of-Honor

February 4 Scout Sunday

March 30 Scout Show


Happy Birthday

Mr. Warmbier 12/01/69

Mr. Maurer 12/22/32

Explorer Post 369 12/31/94


Reality Check:

Off the Net

Imagine that Cray computer decides to make a personal computer. It has a 150 MHz processor, 200 megabytes of RAM, 1500 megabytes of disk storage, a screen resolution of 1024 x 1024 pixels, relies entirely on voice recognition for input, fits in your shirt pocket and costs $300. What's the first question that the computer community asks?

"Is it PC compatible?"


Why do you need it?

Karl N. Matthias

When people come into my dorm room and see me sitting at my computer, the first words out of their mouth are, without fail, "What is that?" Shortly followed by the irritating "Why do you need it?" and then "Why do you have two computers?". For my own sanity I have resorted to curt replies aimed at discouraging them from further questioning of my motives and need. It's almost like they find my ownership of a NeXT computer to be a personal affront to their PC or Mac. They want to know why I need a different computer. Well, for me there is a pretty simple, yet long-winded, explanation of why I wanted and needed to buy a NeXT.

I grew up on the Apple IIe. It was a great machine for a young kid, but eventually you start to grow out of a machine. So, I moved on to an Apple IIgs, the power machine of the Apple II line. It was like a dream come true. 4096 available colors, with 16 disyllable at once, a Mac-like desktop if you wanted it, and it ran great games. (OK, no shot at an Amiga, but I didn't know any better) I was really into BASIC programming and I had basically (no pun intended) maxed out my IIe's capacity. Hi-Res graphics just didn't cut it any more for me.

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1996 Scout Show

The Scouter

The 1996 Simon Kenton Council Scout Show will be held on Saturday, Marc 30, 1996 at the Ohio State Fairgrounds. Unites should begin thinking about heir displays and volunteers to help coordinate their area.

The model railroading building will be open as well as all the favorite events such as the repelling tower and climbing wall. Parking will be much easier as well. So mark your calendars for March 30,1 996 and we'll see you at the fairgrounds.


The Toy Story!

Your First Computer Part 2

Andy P. Drake

Commodore Business Machines was a firm based out of West Chester, Pennsylvania who previously made calculators, metal office products and semi-conductors. It had early, critical success with computers by introducing the Commodore Pet in 1977, mainly in response to the Apple II phenomenon. The Pet was a solid, if more programmer or "techie" style computer than the Apple II, with a tape cassette mechanism built in, a square, programer style keyboard, and an IEEE bus that allowed it easy attachment to laboratory equipment. Sporting 4K of RAM, the Pet sold in large numbers even though it was in black and white only, and lacked the large software base of the Apple II. Architecture, Commodore developed the first business machine in 1979 with the introduction of the CBM 8000 series machine, ones with serious RAM capacity (64K), dual disk drives, and large printers capable of printing wide carriage, much like mainframes. It shipped with word processing, spreadsheet and database applications and sold quite well to small firms, attorneys, and government. But it would be with the Commodore VIC-20, and Commodore C64 that CBM would have its greatest victory in the home computer wars.

Another contender was the Atari Corporation, the world renowned maker of video game machines that were in more homes than any other computing device, Apple, Commodore, and everyone else combined. The Atari Pong Arcade set was selling since 1975, and the 2600 since 1978. When Nolan Bushnell, the founder of Atari, found that the video game industry he created was more difficult to handle, the media conglomerate of Time-Warner bought him out, and in the process became the unwilling (sometimes) makers of home computers. The first to be introduced was the Atari 400, and 800 series, pitted directly against the Apple II and Commodore machines.

Entry number three in the Home Computer conflict was the venerable company of Texas Instruments, with its completely advanced TI99/4, later the 99/4A. As just about everybody knows, TI builds many of the semiconductors that power other companies products, everything from car engine management systems to wrist watches. Early on, they were the clear winners in the calculator wars, being completely vertically integrated to provide themselves with low cost components as to undercut all other competitors and offer calculators for next to nothing. Figuring they could do the same thing with computers, TI took the plunge in 1981 with the 99/4 and escalated the conflict.

The final serious contender to the Home Computer Wars was the Timex Sinclair 1000, or Sinclair ZX-80 and 81. These machines truly unlocked mass computing when they were introduced in 1980, having an introductory price of under $200. However, with their unique, membrane (microwave oven style) keyboard, they found initially great acceptance with consumers that later turned into little brand loyalty after people found the machines 2k of ram and simple keyboard two constraining. After Commodore introduced a trade in program, it was common practice to go down to a corner gas station and buy a Sinclair for $10 and trade it into to Commodore for the $50 off a new Vic-20. Eventually abandoning the computer market after the Timex Sinclair 2068, Sinclair continued to be a major force in Europe until the Commodore 64 ended the second segment of the home computer wars. Sinclair went on to produce a line of IBM comparable machines which some would argue were actually decent.

Scores of other companies entered and left the market briefly, the most notable of which are the MSX machines from Japan, and the Mattel Aquarius, lasting but a few short years. The MSX series were a vaunted group of machines that signaled the start of the Japanese invasion which never happened. NEC, Sharp, Sony and Fuji all decided on a standard to which they would manufacture low end computers, all running a core OS from Microsoft. After consumers found them vastly underpowered and completely foreign in a software sense (despite the built in MicroSoft BASIC), MSX machines languished and then passed from existence sometime after 1983. Also notable was the Coleco Adam, an all in one machine that sported a built in word processor, 80K of RAM, a digital tape drive that was an inexpensive as a tape drive but faster like a floppy, a high quality daisy wheel printer, and the ability to play ColecoVision games. Unfortunately, the Cabbage Patch Doll series kept the Adam alive as sales of this actually decent product were dismal, and eventually with the help of $300 college scholarships, Coleco cleared their inventory. Phase One, The War Takes Shape

The year 1980 was really the watershed year for the home computer wars. It would be the start of truly intense, low cost competition that would bring unprecedented amounts of power into the hands of regular people. IT would more or less help to initiate the severe obsolescence cycle we have now. The major contenders at this point were the Commodore Vic-20, Atari 400/800, TI99/4 and the Timex Sinclair.

Commodore got the early lead because of previously established support from the Commodore Pet Community, excellent packaging, deep cost cutting, and aggressive marketing (but smaller advertising budgets) through large retail chains like K-Mart, Woolco, and Sears, etc.
The War of Computers Part 1
Your First Computer Part 2
Your First Computer, Part 3
Your First Computer Part 4


Getting SCSI to Work Part III

DJ Gregor

This little hardware hack made it easier for the writer of a DOS driver to figure out what IRQ the board is using. Unfortunately, this little hack caused a problem for me when the two sets of jumpers were set to different IRQ's. Actually, this little hack is just to allow for programmers to be lazy on poor operating systems. For most devices, Linux probes port addresses for a device, and when it finds one, it then makes the device create an interrupt, and watches for what interrupt line is signalled. This is easy to do under an OS like Linux, but it can easily crash DOS or Windows.

Well, after fixing that dumb little jumper, I put the card back in my system and booted up. The hard drive was recognized and everything like it should have been the first time. I played around with the SCSI drive for a few minutes, and it was notably faster than my IDE drive. I then partitioned and mkfs'd the drive, and after an hour or two I had everything on my 1.3gig SCSI drive. It took me another two days, though, to get my system to boot off of the SCSI drive. Linux starts up booting in a DOS-like state, and that is where my problem was. It was sweet when I took that IDE drive out of my system.

Over the next few weeks I noticed that the full height drive was REALLY heating up my case and the other system components around it. Right above the drive I had two CD-ROM drives. I found out that the CD-ROM drive directly above the hard drive failed to work. Just like my audio CD play will not work after it has been in the sun for a while, this CD-ROM drive was knocked out-of-whack from the heat. And, this was the better CD-ROM of the two that I used for data disks, so I had to fix this problem.

After a tip from an anonymous source I learned where I could obtain some centronics IDC connectors. I stopped my Micro Center after work one day, and I picked up a 3' Mac SCSI cable, two of these centronics connectors, and a centronics terminator. I got home, pulled the drive out of my PC case and threw it into my external case. (a nice military case with THICK steel). I threw the centronics connectors on my ribbon cable, hooked everything up, and booted up my system. Yet another Success!!! The drive now runs cooler than ever, and everything in my PC case is cool again. Well, that is about the end of my story. If you are interested, here is my current `df' output:

Fsys Blocks Used Avail Cap Mnt on

sda5 32684 22487 8509 73% /

sda7 32695 20026 10981 65% /var

sda8 32695 197 30810 1% /tmp

sda9 62340 37715 21298 64% /var/spool/news

sda10 199255 129182 59783 68% /usr

sda11 199255 33648 155317 18% /usr/X11R6

sda12 701746 470899 194599 71% /home

I like the way that I partitioned everything. If I had to go back and do it again, I would have doubled the size of /var (I do a LOT of logging) and put /usr and /usr/X11R6 on the same partition. Oh well. It is working pretty good.


Novell Netware, as easy as DOS?

Joe Harvey VP Post 369

Yes, Novell Netware can seen like it might be harder that Dos, after all it is Networking. However, It is not that bad. To my disappointment, Netware is capable of being run through a series of menus. This is great I guess for the high school network that I am setting up because most people do not have the experience in UNIX that I have, however when the hard drive crashes because the Novell partition has become un-readable, the menu people do not know where to start. Fortunately I was able to get it to boot because I wasn't dependant on the menu's. Then we could rebuild the drive from menu's. I do not mind menus to make things easy, but we can not depend on them entirely. Novell works much like Dos, but it tends to use more menu's. I suggest learning to do things from a prompt the "hard way" too if you decide to use this for you network. You might just need it!


Silver Beaver Nominations

The Scouter

Scouting's highest award for adult registered Scouters at the council level is the Silver Beaver. All nominations for 1995 must be received at the Council Service Center on or before December 18, 1995.


December 16th & 17th Food Drive!!!

Our Principals:

1) Honor before all else.

2) The difference between a winner and a looser is that the winner tried one more time.

3) K.I.S.M.I.F.


Our Creed:

Exploring: Enthusiasm, Energy, & Excellence.


Quote of the Month

Thomas Jefferson

Eternal vigilance is the price for liberty!


Post Finances

Explorer Post 369 has -$215.00.


Up-an-Coming Post Expenses

12/01/95 Post Charter $30.00

12/01/95 Post Insurance $85.00


Up-an-Coming Member Expenses

Registration 12/01/95 $15.00


Explorer Post 369:

Explorer Post 369 was chartered on December 31, 1994 to the Reformation Luthern Church.

Explorer Post 369 specializes in UNIX for Programmers while emphasizing a deep theme of Engineering Computer Information & Science

Membership in Explorer Post 369 is open to young men and women between the ages of 14 [and in high school] and not yet 20. Annual Membership fees are $15.00.


Saint Steven's Food Drive

December 16 & 17th

Please put on your calendar Saturday and Sunday December 16 & 17th to be at the Saint Steven's Food Drive.

This is our annual service project to help feed over 3,000 needy families Christmas Dinner.

We need your assistance packing and bagging two gymnasiums full of food and toys.


National Leadership Conference

The Scouter

The 1996 National Explorer Leadership Conference will be held Monday, June 24 through Friday, June 28, 1996. The event will be held at Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff. On the beautiful Alpine Campus, located at an altitude of 7000ft., the June temperature rely rachis 85 degrees Fahrenheit, and you need a jack at night. Nav. is conveniently located on highways and is accessible by amtrack, and by air via phoenix. This university was chosen not only because of its beautiful campus and great facilities, but because of tis close proximity to exciting natural attractions such as the Grand Canyon the Painted Desert, Crater National Park, and the Petrified Forest.

The fee is $275.00US per participant: including four nights and five days double occupancy in dorm rooms, all you can eat meals, dances, shows, insurance, entertainment, and awards. [The fee does not include transportation.]

All Posts, regardless of speciality, are invited to register for the category of team competitions they choose. Categories include aviation, engineering and technology, fire and rescue, sports, health careers, and outdoor. Team size varies from two to six participants. Cash awards and trophies will be given for each event. A new category of competitions will be introduced at this conference.

The individual category. All explorers may compete in team events, and/or in any of the individual events. For more information on competitions please contact the Exploring division at 436-7300.

The conference will open Monday night with a big opening show, followed by a dance. Tuesday is dedicated to competitions. Other dance is scheduled for that evening. Wednesday morning is scheduled for leadership development, while Wednesday afternoon is devoted to fun (maybe funny) olympics, picnic, and National Elections. The evening, a talent contest and entertainment night will be held. Thursdays offerings will include outdoor activities such as reapplying, sailing, introduction to scuba diving, and trips to sites such as the Grand Canyon. Thursday nights the grand finale, with the awards ceremony, followed once again by a dance. Plan now to attend this incredible event.


Ultracomputing

James D. Corder

A Leap to a New Level!

On Tuesday November 7, 1995 Sun Microsystems announced their new line of desktop computers, the UltraSparc!!! In my opinion these new computers have changed the face of the computing environment. They have finally taken a step away from focusing on MHz and Mips and have jumped into parallel "buss" and networking.

First and foremost, unlike Dec's Alpha, the CEO of Sun Microsystems has guaranteed that 100% of software that runs on Solaris 2.4 will run on Solaris 2.5 on the 64bit Ultra Sparc.

The Ultra 1 Desktop system can have a 2 to 4 times faster CPU than the Sparc20, 3 - 5 times Faster CPU System Interface, 2 - 4 Times Faster Memory, 2 - 4 Times Faster Graphics, twice as fast Disk I/O, and 10 times faster Networking.

UltraSparc's architecture has a packet switched cash at 83MHz [notice I did not say a CPU at 83MHz, sorry pentium we are measuring cash switching not CPU rate you are not even in the same league] By Summer Sun should have a 300MHz CPU [Currently you can have 2-200MHz CPUs]. This allows for parallel processing within the CPUs instead of buss. Thereby reducing switch buss memory latency.

Ethernet at 10Mb is no longer the standard for desktops. UltraSparcs are being shipped with 100Mb Ethernet utilizing existing Ethernet lines. You will still need new hubs, but step into the 90s.:-)

Sun is the first company to provide Multimedia & VIS (Visual Instruction Set) built into one chip: no need for secondary graphics engines like that other three letter company that begins with a "S". I bet that makes them purple in the face. Ok, P6-2 is trying to come out with something someday, I bet this makes them hot:-)

R.I.P.

Dec

Alpha

Some of the demos where GREAT!!! Sun took the high end fully loaded Mac and the Ultra Sparc 3D [the Mac wa actually more expensive] and did an "Adobe Photo Shop" bluer on the same image; it took 49 Seconds for the Mac and 9 Seconds for the UltraSparc.

Sun took the Ultra Creator 3D and the Indigo OXZ 400 and did a 3D wire rendering of the same image with the same software. Again making sure that the UltraSparc cost less than its competitors. The results: Sun 59 Seconds, SGI 89 Seconds.

The one that impressed me the most was the live, studio quality, full motion video being piped onto a six sided translucent rotating cube with three light sources. LIVE, WOW!!!

With this new system anyone utilizing a Personal Computer anymore is road kill on the SuperHighway. With the new language "Java", a demo was shown with a live stock feed updating a spread sheet. Thereby, creating a stock portfolio with up-to-the-second updates. WOW!!!

For the first time ever I saw a network that had to be slowed down. Imagine a full MPEG going too fast across an Ethernet network without eating 90% of its capacity. As for price, the UltraSparcs will land somewhere between $12,000.00US and $50,000.00US depending on what you put inside of them.

Ok, I want one!!!


A Revolution in Digital Graphics

DJ Gregor

With the release of the new UltraSPARC chips from Sun, we will soon see a revolution in the way computers are used for graphics. The UltraSPARC chip has amazing capabilities that allow it to do graphics processing on the chip, in a pipeline fashion. The Visual Instruction Set, or VIS, gives the UltraSPARC its powerful graphics processing power, by having specialized instructions that do complex graphical floating point functions in parallel.

The UltraSPARC with VIS is the first microprocessor to have on-board two-dimensional and three-dimensional imaging instructions. Up to ten operations can be done per cycle, and with a 300MHz UltraSPARC II chip, 3 Billion< graphics calculations per second can be done. This is previously unheard of, and it has been made possible by the VIS and parallelization. This opens up many new doors for computers, as the UltraSPARC can do video compression and decompression, real-time encryption and decryption of large amounts or data, and it has many, many other applications.

Sun has also worked to make VIS an open standard. Sun and almost a dozen other companies have joined together to create OpenVIS, a group aimed at developing technology to lead the industry with standards in New-Media products.

There are no other single processor chips out now that can beat the UltraSPARC in graphics speed. A benchmark was run on a Pentium 90 and 167MHz UltraSPARC which rotated a 3000x4000 pixel image by 90 degrees. It took the Pentium 7.85s to do the operation with optimized code, it took the UltraSPARC 3.47s with optimized non-VIS code, and with VIS, the operation took only 0.45s! The UltraSPARC with VIS turned out to be more than 17 times faster than the Pentium!

The UltraSPARC chips are extremely powerful with the VIS. Sun has strived to make OpenVIS an industry standard, and it is setting the pace for future companies entering into the high-performance graphical computing forum. The UltraSPARC chips are going to cause major changes to computer graphics, and Sun is leading the revolution.


The Toy Story

James D. Corder

This is an absolute must see movie!!!

My first fear was that Disney would create another "Tron" movie: An attempt to create a cutting edge technical production that lacked depth. However, I must admit that not only is the movie a technical wonder but more importantly it has a strong story line and it's characters have depth.

Once you let loose of your desire to study the magnificence of the animation and watch the movie in its entirety you are captivated by the motion picture itself.

Techie Stuff

Pixar used a 294 CPU Sun Farm coupled with an Auspex NFS server to render 34 terabytes of files. The final amount of space required to store all of the frames was roughly over 500Gb. The average frame was 1526x922.

You must get a copy of the August 1995 Computer Graphics World. Toy Story is its cover story.

I think the best part about the creation of Toy Story was that its animators were willing to abandon the concepts of utilizing Intel and/or Macs for the truly awesome compute power of the Sun Sparc 20s. I am spell bound by the ability of the Sun Farm to process such a large amount of data in a short enough time to make full length computer generated animation cost effective in a timely manner.

I am awaiting to see the next generation of computer animation once the Sun UltraSparc 2 3De comes out this spring. This box was designed specifically for computer animation. In my opinion, it will have SGI & Dec Alpha quivering in its boots as they both run to maintain their market share.

According to the President of Sun MicroSystems, the UltraSparc and Solaris 2.5 will be 100% binary compatible with Sun4c, Sun4m and Solaris 2.4! Therefore, UltraSparc is coming to the table with the Software that Dec Alpha lacks and the compute power that SGI never dreamed it could have.


Why do you need it? (Cont)

Karl N. Matthias

7 colors can only take you so far. The IIgs provided me with a great outlet for my programming. I purchased the Orca/M Macro Assembler (also known as APW, Apple Programmer's Workshop) and the Orca/C C compiler from the Byte Works. I couldn't believe the abilities of the IIgs, with its Super Hi-Res graphics and 16 channel Ensoniq sound. Well, unfortunately for Apple, the IIgs met an early demise. It was the bridge machine between the Apple II users and the Mac users, and it fell short of a Mac, which took over its market.

I'm not sure exactly what made me shift from the IIgs to my next machine, but it steered me in a very different direction. I went out to Radio Shack and bought a Tandy 1400LT laptop computer with an NEC 8086 clone processor, two 3.5" 720k floppy drives, and a Supertwist black and white LCD screen. It lasted nine months. Frankly it had none of the draw of my IIgs and allowed nearly no output for my programming dreams. My parents had tried to talk me out of it from the beginning, and now it was far too late to get any money back out of it. My father needed a computer and so he paid me one third of what I had bought it for. That was a steal on my part, although he still uses it.

Upon sale of that machine, and drawing upon the funds of my Cleveland Plain Dealer daily paper route, which had, incidentally, funded all the other machines, I purchased a FastData 386sx16 with two megs of RAM and an 80 Meg hard drive. It also had a Paradise SVGA card with 256k and a Hyundai monitor (which I still haven't managed to get rid of). I bought it because I had a friend who had one and also had Turbo Pascal, which I thought was great. I have been gradually upgrading the machine since. I became very involved in programming in both C and Pascal on my PC and was always looking for better programming methods and tools.

In 1992 I took journalism class in High School. The machines we used were the cheap Macintosh SEs that the school had purchased several years before. This particular day, we went to the computer lab to work on our articles, and this black machine was sitting on the teacher's table, with this gigantic monitor. I instantly forgot about journalism and went over to take a look. The AP computer science class was all gathered around this young wiry guy, who was demonstrating something. My teacher didn't notice I was missing, so I spent the class period watching my first NeXT computer. The guy was a graduate of the computer science program at the University of Kentucky, and had gone to Shaker Heights (my school) for High School. The computer was black and white, but the monitor was a 21", and the sharpest I had ever seen. The applications like Lotus Improv were vastly improved in comparison to the ones I had experienced, and it had something called NeXTmail, a full multimedia e-mail standard, including sound and everything else. But, the thing that drew my attention the most was the programming. He said it used something called Objective-C, which was not at all related to C++. But, then, in 25 minutes, he proceeded to write a small word processor that spell-checked and used different fonts. That was something I had always wanted to be able to do on my PC, but I knew a project like that would take months to complete. This computer allowed you to do it in 25 minutes. That was it, I was going to have one.

Well, I spent the next two years reading everything I could about NeXT, and with a subscription to NeXTworld magazine. I was constantly dismayed by the price of the systems. Then, NeXT dropped their hardware line in favor of NeXTstep for Intel. I was, at first, overwhelmed by this idea. I soon found out, however, that there was just no way my 386 was going to run the OS. That sent me back to the drawing board.

Not every computer is only a PC!


In early September of 1994, my little brother saw an ad on his local BBS for a NeXT. The guy wanted $2250 for the machine. I called Bell Atlantic, the company that had the contract on service and sales of NeXT hardware since the demise of the product line, and found out that they wanted $2800 for the same machine, a NeXTstation with a 420 meg hard drive, 16 megs of RAM, and a 17" monitor. Well, there was no way I was going to be able to afford either machine. I had saved all the money I earned that summer, however, aiming at buying a Dell Dimension XPS P60 system. I quickly decided to redirect these funds if possible. I called the guy, Carlin Wiegner by name, and found out that he was anxious to sell the NeXT before he returned to school at Stanford. I was worried about software, but he assured me that it was loaded with it. Well, after a little discussion he brought it over to my house for me to take a look at. It didn't work. The OS was improperly installed and wouldn't boot. I just about slew him right there. My hopes had been so high. He did have the install CDs, though. I borrowed an Apple single speed CD-ROM from school and we spent five hours installing the OS. I didn't know anything about the machine then, or I would have done a lot of things differently. He obviously knew nothing about the machine either, since he did almost everything wrong. In the end I wound up with no software, because the drive was reformatted. But, he accepted my offer of $1650, and so the machine was mine.

Although I got off to a bad start, the machine has become my favorite of all time. I was lucky enough to get the entire NeXT administration book set with it, including a non-NeXT published called "NeXTstep Programming". This machine is the perfect programming tool. You can't beat it. When Steve Jobs says you can write an application in half the time it takes on any other platform, he's not exaggerating. Unfortunately, college has cramped my open programming time. The funny thing about it, is that though I bought the machine for programming, it has drawn me down two different roads. I have gotten very much into the UNIX side of the box. I had run Linux on my 386sx16 for awhile, but it was nothing like this. Admittedly NeXT Mach is lacking some major UNIX utilities in its official installation. But, they can be compiled from source off the net. The move from programming to system administration is just as exciting for me as the move to the NeXT platform in the first place. Compared to this machine, my PC is a poor second.

So, "Why do you need it?" Well, because it's me. I don't know a better way to explain it than that simple sentence. But if I hadn't gone through all this, would you understand what I meant? No, I don't think you would. So, I just give a curt reply to this question, and blow it off. People wouldn't want to take the time to really understand, anyway. Maybe next time some one asks me, I'll hand them a copy of this article.


Scout Sunday

Jams D. Corder

Saturday February 3 Troop and Post 369 will have their annual put luck dinner and Court-of-Honor. This Court-of-Honor is where the Advancement Cords are presented.

Tuesday January 23 Explorer Post 369 will hold its Advancement Tests, and have Explorer Officer Nominations.

Tuesday January 30 will be Explorer Post 369 Officer Elections.

Elected Positions are:

President, Administrative Vice President, Program Vice President, Secretary/Treasure, Post Historian

Nominated and approved by the Post Committee Positions are:

Senior System Administrator and System Administrators

After the Court-of-Honor we will spend the night in the church se we can attend morning church services on February 4, Scout Sunday.


Post Leadership

The Scouter

One purpose of an Explorer Post is to develop youth leadership. There election to office is a critical item of business and should be addressed as soon as possible after your Post's firstnighter. The elected officers of an Explorer Post consists of the following people:

President: Key youth leader of the post; works closely with you, the advisor, and the rest of the adult leadership team to plan Post and Post Officer meetings.

Administrative Vice President: Person responsible for membership and recognition.

Program Vice President: Person responsible for surveying members' interests in program activities and scheduling Post activities.

Secretary / Treasure: Person keeps records, takes minutes, handles correspondence and also is responsible for maintaining dues and Post Treasury.

Historians: Person keeps records of past events and activities for prosperity./

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